Political Scientist Urges Russia to Call the West’s Bluff

From Komsomolskaya Pravda:

Political Scientist Aleksandr Dugin: Right now the most important thing is to withstand the USAs and NATOs bluff

On Friday Mach 1, at an extraordinary session of the Federation Council, senators unanimously approved the use of Russian troops in Crimea. These measures are intended to be in force until the stabilization of the situation in this country.

Aleksandr Dugin, political scientist and head of a center for conservative studies at Moscow State University’s sociological department, shared his opinion on this matter on air with “Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda”.

The expert is sure that in the current situation there is more at stake than only the struggle for Crimea, and there can be no discussion about the peninsula’s annexation to Russia

It has becoming evident: Russia is helping Crimea. How do you evaluate these events and what do the Russian authorities need to do in this situation?

“Right now the most important thing, in my view, is to withstand the bluff of the USA and NATO countries, who will demand the withdrawal of our troops from Crimea under the threat of a Third World War. Such a war will not happen, the West is governed by quite sane people. If we will simply stand our ground, then a period of a unipolar world will come to an end. Now a terrible struggle is going on. The struggle for Crimea is not just a struggle for Crimea or the Ukraine, or for Russia, but a struggle for a new world order, whether unipolar or not. If we hold out, and I do not doubt that we will, we will not only reconstruct the constitutional system in the Ukraine, we will not only restore peace, but we will also give all the peoples of the world the chance to build their own destiny.”

Now Putin is one step away from becoming the leader of the world, the main figure in which is embodied freedom and independence from American hegemony. He will definitely pass this historical test, now is the moment of truth for us, for Russia, and a critical moment for Putin himself. That is, Crimea already has secondary significance. That which is playing out in Crimea is not only order, not only the saving of Crimeans from planned genocide and massacre. We are not talking about the return of Crimea to Russia, we are talking about something else altogether: about how American hegemony in the world and ability to carry out coups and initiate bloody massacre are put to an end.

If Russia stands its ground, and we insist on international law, on the observance of democratic procedures, on legality and the peaceful resolution of all problems, then Putin in fact becomes the first person in world politics. And Obama, the second. This is fundamental, irreversible, and it means that in all geopolitics, in all conflicts, in all zones of the world, including the Pacific Ocean region, Latin America, Europe, Asia, and the Islamic World, all maps and positions will be reshaped.

What will happen next?

The West only has one answer for everything: beginning of nuclear war, but this is not possible, and consequently, the West simply has no answer. Let’s note that not only isn’t Ukraine able to fight Russia, especially since it’s no longer a state: the President is currently on the one side, the junta is on the other. It does not even control Kiev, where there is a colossal number of gangs, operating in their own self-interest. In such a situation, there is no consolidation and, consequently, the only thing Kiev can count on, in the face of popular uprising against junta – for order, life and freedom of citizens – is American interference, the introduction of NATO troops. But if NATO troops make their way in, then it will be that very nuclear war, which no one wants: neither Europe nor the USA. Therefore, all that the West will offer, in fact, is a pure bluff.

Comments from Komsomolskaya Pravda:

Guest 6000

I am proud that we have such a president. I am proud of my country and our people, and especially the Russian people. We will withstand and win in any trials.

Наталия Ната (responding to above)

You are unique. The only one, probably, on the planet Earth. Keep on being proud of such a president with a flag in your hands (only, choose which one)

Guest 186 (responding to above)

Natalya Nat, this isn’t your place. Echo and Dozhd are more for you [Note: media outlets that tend to have oppositionist leanings]. Complain to each other, curse the country (I don’t say motherland, because such as yourself don’t have one), in which you all grew up and studied (probably, for free), in which your ancestors lived for decades – they could hardly have been such nobodies, like you, in former times patriotism was inherent to all – America hadn’t fattened up anyone.

Guest 1673 (also responding to above)

Natalya, as they say, jog on! You aren’t unique, you are a traitor to your country.

Guest 7534

I very much hope, that not a single Slavic soldier or peaceful resident will perish. Ukranians, those which stood out on Maidan, I admire you, stay strong.


Legally, Russia has all rights to introduce troops into Ukraine with a view to maintaining order and protecting its citizens and their families. See art.7,10,11 of the ‘Big Treaty’ between RF and Ukraine from 1997

This is first thing.

And secondly – legally the USSR (surprise suprise) still exists, and the RF is its successor, i.e. it has only changed the name, which is recognized by all UN members. This is where it all starts from, with Russia being the only state paying back the USSR’s debts. The Belovezh agreements were nullified by the State Duma of the RF on March 16, 1996. At the USSR referendum on March 17, 1991 80.2% of Ukrainian citizens voted in favor of Ukraine remaining within the USSR! For those who are interested-see Wikipedia

Guest 2455 (responding to above)

I agree! And so it is.

Чуч-хе (Juche):

New perspectives are now coming to light in Russia! The idea of Juche – one correct path!

Guest 7613 (responding to above)

Don’t you have anything to say? Clown!..

Guest 3314

Ukraine is Stalingrad for the USA

I am from Kiev:

Guys, what did Ukraine do to you? We didn’t stand against Russians and for NATO, but so there wouldn’t be any corruption, so that there would be decent medicine, and that the police would catch thieves and bandits. It’s scary to go into the government hospital in the center of Kiev. Thee are eternal repairs and lines. Officials’ drunk kids kill pedestrians with their cars. It’s scary for us to live in such a country, but we want to change something. And for this they call us Fascists? I have friends and acquaintances that speak different languages – Ukrainian, Russian, French, Spanish, English…no one in Ukraine is against the Russian language.

We took to the streets peacefully, but no one wanted to listen to us. The authorities that have run away shot people on the streets, in both Eastern and Western Ukraine. The first victims weren’t even Ukrainians, but Belorusians and Armenians. The Rusian media is now interpreting the fight against corruption and lawlessness as Fascist marches…They are calling white black…And you are arguing about NATO and geopolitics…the Russian authorities and the former Ukrainian authorities, who with blood will strengthen their business interests, are set out to get us.

Guest 3183: (responding to above)

So, a robbed and hopeless people, these are Fascists?

Also from Kiev: (also responding to previous commenter)

The people stood for what was right, only the ones that came to power were those financed by the states and their goals were completely different than those of the people.

Наталия Ната (also to above)

Crimeans and residents of Eastern Ukraine. Do you really expect something good in Russia? Only Moscow lives well. You want Russian protection? DON’T BE SEDUCED!

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  • Ruaraidh

    Odds offered against Putin becoming the leader of the world… 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000:1
    Odds offered against Putin becoming the leader of Crimea…

    • MidniteOwl

      Odds Crimea will become a terrorist hub thereafter… guaranteed win.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    By the same logic, “West” can argue that Russia won’t resort to a nuclear war either. So if West sends troops in to fight Russia, they’ll end up looking like assholes who called a bluff that wasn’t really a bluff and now doesn’t really have a good move to make.

    • Except Russia spent about 80+
      million on arms from the Uk last year alone.
      so who benefits??
      Contracts are at risk atm the real power brokers are I fear debating credit v debit..People and nationality have very little to do with this power grab.

      • Northforge

        Just like Stalin’s ethnic cleansing of 30 million Ukrainians, Crimea will ethnic cleanse all Ukrainians from Crimea, and plunge the world into WW III. #Cockfag_Putin

    • Guest23

      Really hope they won’t do anything stupid to escalate things to a prelude to World War 3, especially the suggestions of very “patriotic” comments that call for war or annexation or toppling the new government.

      • lonetrey / Dan

        Agreed. I believe a peaceful resolution _must_ be found. War in this day and age is stupid.

        I mean, are we not educated and civilized by now? War between Russia and anyone is just so…. dramatic. I feel like high school never ended.

        • Guest23

          No drama this time, they’re going all crazy with that referendum that is gonna make it legitimate for Russia to annex the whole Crimean peninsula from Ukraine, pretty much the end part of this song is pretty right.

    • RothschildIsMoney

      Well we need to consider what if the situation is vice versa. It’s not like the Russia is want to intervene in Mexico or any US neighbor. The problem is the US want to stick their nose at any region on earth.

      • MidniteOwl

        it’s not just the US. It’s most of the world. If others weren’t there to say, hey, wtf?! the world wars would have done in a different direction. The real problem is Putin being a little bitch about things and turning directly to aggression.

      • So if a country objects to another country violating another country’s sovereignty, that’s interfering? By that logic, no one outside of the Americas should object if the US invades one of its neighbors (e.g., Guam).

        • RothschildIsMoney

          Yes. But US is definitely a joke when telling another country to respect country’s sovereignty.

          • Yes, everyone knows that the US has committed indefensible acts of foreign intervention. But that doesn’t mean you can use that fact to rebut sensible comments against Russian violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty.

            You’re basically just rehashing this:


            “Tu quoque, or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a logical fallacy
            that attempts to discredit the opponent’s position by asserting the opponent’s failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone’s point of view based on criticism of the person’s inconsistency and not the position presented whereas a person’s inconsistency should not discredit the position. Thus, it is a form of the ad hominem argument. To clarify, although the person being attacked might indeed be acting inconsistently or hypocritically, such behavior does not invalidate the position presented.”

          • RothschildIsMoney

            In this case, tu quoque is applied to US when Kerry tells Russia “you don’t invade a country on completely phony pretexts”. Look, Ukraine is a really complicated game. The large Russian minority within the Ukraine who is pro-Russian, and probably wants to see the establishment of a government that will be friendly to them. Sound familiar? The US, and pretty much all other countries, do just the same thing. World politics isn’t a concrete black & white/us versus them kind of issue. All nations want is security.

          • The Russian presence in Crimea is essentially a relic of Soviet-era colonialism.

            “First, Crimea is historically the ethnic homeland of the Crimean Tatars, who where for centuries the majority ethnic group in Crimea, until the Russians decimated them in the 1930 hunger genocide and then totally expelled them in mass in 1944, murdering almost half the population in the process. The present “Russian” population can better be described as”homo soveticus”, i.e a motley post WWII collection of pensioned off Stalinists, soviet military lifers and minor communist apparatchiks who were given Crimean residency permits (think of a Soviet Florida) as a reward to their unflinching and unquestioning services to the various Soviet regimes. It’s not surprising that they see Putin as their new Stalin figure. They now style themselves as pseudo-cossacks, “patriots” and “oppressed peoples”; what they really want is their lost special social and economic status they held in the Soviet Union. Look no further than across the Kerch Strait, and you will find that the Krasnodar region (i.e. Kuban), which has real Cossacks (of Ukrainian Zaporizhian Cossack descent) and ethnic Ukrainians who together make up over 70% of the population. This region has been and continues to be brutally Russified by Moscow. As recently as the 1930s, the Kuban’s official language was Ukrainian, and it asked to join its ethnic brethren in Ukraine, only to be brutally repressed and subject to the same artificial genocidal starvation as were the Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars. Historically, in both the Russian Empire and Soviet Union, the ethnic designation of “Russian” was either forced upon other Slavic minorities or a prerequisite for social, career or party advancement.

            Crimea is no more historically Russian than Kuban is historically Ukrainian; Lviv is no more historically Ukrainian than it is historically Polish; and half of present day Poland is historically Prussian. On this basis virtually every country in Europe has a historically justifiable claim on its neighbor. Why not just a allow an armed free for all then? Russia, the “jail of nations”, has much more to lose than most. I also wish them interesting times with the Chinese, now that they themselves have estabished an actionable precedent for the Far East!”

  • vonskippy

    Moscow State University, the Community College of the Eastern Bloc.

    I wonder how much it cost for that loony tunes guy to buy his degree (expertise not required).

    There’s several ways in which this can play out, none of which makes Putin leader of the world.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    Okay I just can’t get over that flag. I’m sure that 8 pointed star means something else, but every time I see that, I can only see this.

    • Guest23

      Seeing as Ukraine’s situation is very chaotic, pretty apt coincidence with the symbol, but hopefully they won’t escalate things to the point of Chaos warbands running amok there.

  • Northforge

    Adolf Putin strikes again.

    • Claude

      Hitler waited three years after his Olympics before invading poland, putin couldn’t wait a month.

  • Mighty曹

    I just can’t stop thinking how the outcome would have been so much different if the Euromaidan had intensified efforts and ousted Yanukovych at the start of Sochi Olympics, at which time Putin would not have been such a hard ass.

  • Chris McKenna

    Maybe I’m over simplifying here. But can’t Russia just have Crimea and the East and the new government keep the rest? It seems people in Crimea want to join Russia, let them have a vote and see what happens. Why does it have to stay as a single country?

    • Countries do not take kindly to secession.

    • Sambo

      There’s lots of Mexicans in California and Texas, how would you feel about Mexican majority counties holding referendums on whether they want to join Mexico?

      • I was actually thinking about that last night. But the funny thing is that they wouldn’t want to join Mexico, lol.

      • Chris Granzow XI

        That’s not the same though because Mexicans are a vastly different racial-ethnic group, with huge language and cultural differences. Ukrainians and Russians are both Slavic, their genetics show that they’re nearly identical, and their languages are pretty much the same. I can speak Russian, and anytime I see Ukrainian it’s very easy to read and make out what they’re saying. Also, Ukraine and Russia have an intertwined history since the founding of Russia, and were the same entity for most of history.

      • vonskippy

        Hmmm, letting Mexico take over Texas and California – you say that like it would be a bad thing.

        • Well, the U.S. economy would shrink by 21% (about the same size as Germany’s economy) and lose a third of its petroleum supply and most of its high-tech industry (representing over half of all U.S. venture capital investment) in the process.

          Plus, Disneyland, man.

    • Gu3st

      Hello Chris McKenna,
      I’m from the future and yes, Crimea did indeed join Mother Russia. So never think that over simplifying things is wrong :)

  • Gu3st

    You know how people like to argue and get mad about stuff that doesn’t and/or wont affect their life? Like same sex marriage, death penalty, abortions, etc
    Well, I’m Russian, but I do not live in Russia. Nothing is keeping me in Russia. I can stay in a foreign land as long as I wish, but I won’t change my citizenship. Anyways, there’s one thing that does affect my life – the way Putin leads Russia.
    You see, I was fucking embarrassed when Yeltsin was in power. I wouldn’t say I was Russian, because back then Russia was a shithole of a country and Yeltsin was a drunk joke.
    Now I’m proud to say I’m Russian, because, let’s face it, there’re lots of people who hate Russia, there’re some people who love Russia, but absolutely all do respect Russia’s power. I’m glad that Russia got reborn under Putin’s rule.
    This is how Putin effects my daily life – I’m not embarrassed anymore, but incredibly proud of my nationality!
    The end :)

    • Imperialism does not earn you respect. Bush’s incursions into Afghanistan and Iraq only earned America the scorn and derision of the world; don’t think Putin has the global political capital to leverage a successful Sudetenland-style annexation without serious blowback.

  • MidniteOwl

    Putin is a half-sized piece of shit. And it’s not a bluff

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